The Assassination & Mrs. Paine

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Always interesting to see photos, films and people interviewed, I haven't seen before . Opposing Arguments are well represented. I learned about The connections the Paine's had ,. What I enjoyed the most about the whole movie, was Ruth & Michael Paine, ! After reading about them all these years.

I had never heard of Paine before this movie and did not know about her relationship with Oswald. Oswald did not kill Kennedy. Oswald was not in the depository room. It was LBJ's hit man. It was ballistically impossible to hit Kennedy from the depository room due to the angle. Oswald was left handed and the Rifle was a Bolt action rifle and the bolt angle was 90 degrees and it would have been impossible for Oswald to get off 3 shots in the amount of time that they said.he did. The rifle that was found in the depository was not the same rifle that Oswald bought. The Kennedy assassination was a conspiracy between several groups. Kennedy was shot from the front as his skull was blown out of the back of his head. Paine may have had some involvement, but how much, no one will never know as. There was a big cover up by the warren commission.

The dust, a queen once said, and this inclusion to the jfk assassination saga really doesnt blow away the fog of uncertainty whether it was an actual coup or a conspiracy made by the family of...., or just a mission accomplished by the one man only , lee harvey oswald. Mrs paine seems to me as an awfully lovely elderly lady, that have had a very intelligent and structured life, merely based on her faith, and love to her country. I dont think shes more than a coinccidental prit on the map that elsewiise is covered with thousands of other coorporate and political culprits that has reigned the u.s. Society over the 12 past decades, so enjoy watching this documentary, its good storytelling, and continue to hope that the rest of the cia files will be rendered free as soon as posible, the grumpy old man will be looking forward to that.

I really enjoyed watching this film. There are so many layers to this mystery. It was like watching an onion getting peeled later by layer. The film was personal and engaging. I will definitely be watching it more than once!

They always use people close to the vest for such big operations as the jfk assassination. She has not changed her story all these years. They also lay out very well the psychological warefare game that the Paines laid with linking oswald to Kostikov ,and him possibly being a Russian agent. Then Johnson had to force the lone nut story because we cant risk nuclear war. We were forced to accept that for the good of the country. But we didn't.

I'm not a fanatical follower of this terrible event in American history, but I have been paying attention over the years. My father always said we would only get a small taste of the truth when all the principle players start dying. Now they're all in their 80-90's (or dead), so tongues are perhaps loosening, fears lessening - or maybe the victors are just that confident about their positions by now. This is the story of Ruth Paine, the lady who hosted Marina Oswald (and their children) at her home during the assassination of President Kennedy. While she has always been an interesting - and central - character in this drama, you will be deeply surprised to hear the revelations about her and he family as presented in this excellent film. After sixty years of interest, i didn't know: 1) her husband was a member of the wealthy and influential Forbes family, 2) they rubbed elbows with the elite of America's conservative establishment at the time (although she ostensibly harbors deeply liberal ideations), 3) her family vacationed with Allen Dulles that very summer (1963), 4) her best friend was Dulles' mistress, 5) on the way home from that vacation, she stopped by New Orleans to transport Marina and her children to her extremely modest home in Irving (a Dallas suburb where she was living at the time of the murder), 6) she later interacted with Nicuraguan Sandinistas in a role very similar to the one that brought her into the circle of Russian ex-patriots in Dallas (that is as an apparent information-gathering asset for the US government), 7) her husband and his family were instrumental in the development of Bell Helicopter (think Vietnam war profits), and 8) multiple members of her family including her sister - and Mrs. Paine heself - have documentad ties to the CIA. Very strange. Viewed from a certain perspective then, she couild easily appear to be a well placed disinformation agent tasked with perpetrating and affirming the "lone gunman theory". So very, very strange....

As our political and media elites express horror over the Jan. 6th "insurrection" let's not forget that the country has already been victimized by a coup that happened on November 22nd 1963. This was not executed by a bunch of yahoos many of whom mistook the event for Halloween. This was the president's head being blown off in broad daylight by serious people. The country has never really recovered. This excellent film bravely sheds light on this horrific event. Highly recommended!

"The Assassination & Mrs. Paine" is a well-crafted documentary about a figure who has not received enough attention of students of the JFK assassination: Ruth Hyde Paine. The evidence in the film suggests that while not a conspirator, Ruth Paine was likely an unwitting collaborator as a baby sitter for Lee Harvey Oswald in the month leading up to the assassination. In this regard, Paine's role was not insignificant in the framing of Oswald as the patsy. Marina Oswald and her baby June moved in with Ruth in her home in Irving, Texas, and Lee listed the Paine address and phone number on his job applications. It is correctly pointed out in the film that it was Ruth Paine who conveniently provided the lead for Oswald's job at the Texas School Book Depository building overlooking the upcoming parade route for Kennedy in Dallas. However, the filmmakers could have probed deeper into this key moment. Inexplicably, Oswald was hired at the Texas School Book Depository building without a substantial check of his background that would have disclosed that he had defected to the Soviet Union in 1959. One of the local employment counselors had worked for years with the TSDB personnel and was shocked that Oswald had been hired. She recalled the following: "They check.... If in past years, when I had been sending them applicants, I had sent them anyone who was not a 100% red-blooded, true-blue, American, I would have heard about it, plenty!....I only knew that they were terribly finicky about the people they hired." Why was Oswald an apparent exception to the "finicky" hiring standards of the TSBD? He submitted his application on October 15 and was apparently on the job the very next day. The filmmakers clearly wanted to present the Ruth Paine narrative objectively, enlisting a balance of Warren Commission apologists in opposition to those who firmly believe in conspiracy. But in so doing, there is the impression that viewers can make up their own minds about a topic in which we will likely never know the truth. The best segment of the film was the closing section where Ruth is confronted with tough questions and key pieces of evidence, which she casually brushed off. It is the preponderance of evidence gathered over the years by the researchers appearing in this program that points to Ruth Paine, her husband Michael, and other family members working within the intelligence network at the height of the Cold War. A careful study of the actions of Ruth Paine inevitably arrives at the conclusion that her involvement in crafting the legend of Lee Harvey Oswald is highly suspicious!

I guess this is an interesting vantage point for an US-audience, since its part in the national history. I know many younger Germans like to watch documentaries about Hitler, with it having been recorded so extensevely and all. In both cases, nothing new is being revealed. Hitler didn't defect to South America, nor did Elvis get abducted by aliens (as I presume). As with JFK the same old information is presented in a slightly different light. They're milking these stories for as long as humanly possible, but - hey, as long as it is fun to watch, by all means, onward and upward with it. Nothing new or revealing here.