Dog Pound

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One wit suggested that the tagline of the classic British Borstal drama should have been " Just when you thought it was safe to go in to the greenhouse ... " Well just when you thought it was safe to go back to the DVD store where you rented American remakes of GET CARTER , etc along comes yet another remake of a classic British movie based on Alan Clark's brutal and bleak borstal British realist drama SCUM One thing that strikes you about the differences between the two films is the ironic differences in culture between Britain and America . In Britain jails are seen as holiday camps where prisoners are surrounded by TVs , DVD players and computer games . I should point I'm using the modern day 21st Century view of British penal establishment with borstal ( Juvenile detention centres ) being a long forgotten memory . This contrasts with the perceived view both sides of the pond that any type of penal institution in America is a violent and brutal hell hole with physical and sexual violence depressingly routine . SCUM seems rather dated in that it's just too bleak where as DOG POUND fails because it's a little bit too nice !!!!!! SPOILERS TO SCUM ( 1979 )!!!!! Indeed the major difference between the two films is how the inmates are treated by the warders/correctional officers . SCUM gets off to a brutal start with Carling being assaulted by two of the screws who are portrayed in a cruel manner with perhaps the worst type of cruelty being an officer who witnesses the gang rape of Davis which he turns a blind eye to . In DOG POUND there's no such cruelty of indifference with officers being some sort of surrogate social workers . I don't doubt for a moment that COs in American juvenile detention centres would view themselves as rehabilitaters but it makes for a far less compelling film One wonders if director Kim Chapirion and screenwriter Jeremie Delon are trying to make a much more human film by portraying authority in this light . However they fail on a couple of major points . One is that they insert their own scenes or embellish scenes from the original without thinking it through . Effectively Carling - or Butch as he's called here - is told he'll be let out in two weeks if he behaves himself . Of course something happens that ends this but the inciting incident is so weak it loses credibility . . Likewise Davis is allowed to commit suicide in a crowded dorm by bleeding to death which isn't impossible but unlikely compared to the scene in the original Chapirion also misses the point that Clark's original was the archtypal realist film with no incidental music and subplots that disappear . This is a much more cohesive non realist film with a soundtrack Perhaps there should be a third criticism and that is the casting . The cast of SCUM was fantastic . All of them were unknown at the time but several like Ray Winstone and Phil Daniels went on to appear in countless British films and TV shows up[ till today . Adam Butcher as Butch is no rough diamond geezer . He's probably a really nice guy in real life and never really convinces as someone who can take over a wing of a prison system . Likewise Shane Kippel as Davis never has victim stamped on his forehead unlike Julian Firth in SCUM All in all this is a weaker more mainstream remake of a much revered film made in Britain in the late 1970s , a film that was highly quotable and oft mentioned by British teenagers in the 1980s . DOG POUND will appeal to anyone with an interest in films set in prisons but if you've seen the original source material it is lacking whilst ironically throws a spanner in the works when it goes its own way

Some of the adult characters are more sympathetic and less two dimensional than the original film but the main plot lines are remarkable similar, depressing that the writers could not have more creative though that is hardly unique in films being produced in last ten years. The main theme revolving around adolescent males' alienation and general response of society to simply shut problem kids away should be of concern to us all, we keep repeating the same mistake over and over again however this film is soulless as its just comes across as a documentary without attempting to put forward a vision for a way forward. The original film was ground breaking as its exposed a particular problem with the Borstal (UK) system maybe this American version was meant to throw light on a similar problem in the US however its lack of originality raises a suspicion that its simply an exploitation piece instead of social commentary. Funding and making independent films is hard enough so it's almost criminal writers plagiarise other peoples work.

This is the first time I see a movie so directly copied from another. I had similar feeling when I saw "Black Swan", by Darren Aronofsky, because I thought it was heavily copied from "La Pianiste", by Michael Haneke. However, "Dog Pound" is really shocking when it comes to the extent of the similarities to "Scum (1979)", directed by Alan Clarke. I think the director Kim Chapiron should have credited the script to Roy Minton (Scum's writer), not to himself. That was his biggest mistake while making this movie, since the overall quality of this work is not the worst. It is a good movie, but quite embarrassing that it is so similar to "Scum (1979)", directed by Alan Clarke. I wonder if the company who produced "Scum" knows about the existence of this plagiarism, because that is how it seems for many viewers. I wish luck to this young French director Kim Chapiron, but he needs to think twice before trying to hide that it was not him who wrote the script of a film he is directing. It comes quite difficult to rate a plagiarism, but my vote is 5.

DOG POUND – CATCH IT ( B ) Dog Pound is a very interesting and realists look in to the Juvenile prison's world. The movie starts off really strong by showing the leading 3 male teens involving in drugs, assault and theft. They get caught up and get imprisonment in Juvi prison. Then the bully starts from the teens living and running the Juvi prison. The bullying sequences are really interesting and 1st half just flies by. The problems starts in the 2nd half when movie becomes rather more cliché, when Adam Butcher Aka. Butch takes over the prison after beating up the bullying teens. There are more nasty female jokes, few more beat ups and drug intake. The ending becomes really cliché and sudden death of two of the teens comes out from no-where. Mateo Morales Aka. Angel dies when a police office just pushes him and he hit his head with the pipe, he collapse there and later on dies. (No further actions have been shown against police officer, why Angel's parents didn't come to find out what exactly happened in here?). Shane Kippel's death is quite weird, Angel's dies and Butch is put into solitary confinement , so Butch is in the solitary confinement then the bully teens target the frighten Boy Davis and rape him, that night he dies from bleeding. (shock :-O) he dies so suddenly like that with internal bleeding, I think it came out too sudden. Adam Butcher as Butch is really good in Dog Pound, he doesn't have to say much and with his eyes and face he showed all the emotions. Shane Kippel and Mateo Morales as Davis and Angel respectively did a fine job. Nonetheless a good movie which becomes rather cliché in the end, still it's a good movie to give it a shot.

Although i did not yet see "Scum" - but will see as soon as i can - i think it's perfectly acceptable a remake (still not sure that it's a remake) after several decades. The thematic of life in a prison or juvenile delinquency is not new. What's new is the extraordinary realism with which this film is made of. Extraordinary violence is processed between the actors and the audience. Awesome performances in all the situations. The less likable aspect about this movie is the sudden and somehow incoherent death of two youths. But the soul of the project is always there.